SHOULD WE STAY OR SHOULD WE GO?

Should We Stay Or Should We Go?


by Dave Hodges - thecommonsenseshow.com

June 24, 2013 - Featured, Immigration, Main

Are you tired of living under relative tyranny where every email is read, every phone call is listened to and your every movement is tracked and dissident journalists are harassed and even murdered by federal agencies such as the rogue NSA, CIA and IRS? Are you thinking about escaping our corrupt and criminal government?

expat 1Americans are leaving the country at record speed and the annual rate of expatriation is growing as over 150,000 Americans departed the former land of liberty for greener pastures overseas in the past year. In fact, there are now over five million Americans who are choosing to live outside the United States. Just why are Americans leaving this land of “freedom” and opportunity in record numbers, with no end in sight?

Would you renounce your U.S. citizenship if it meant you’d be sending less of your hard-earned dollars to Uncle Sam? Do you want affordable health care? Do you desire to live a long and healthy life? Do you want your children to have an affordable college education? Do you want to retire in relative comfort? Do you desire live your life with more freedoms that you presently enjoy and not have to worry about government harassment? On balance, should most Americans stay or go?

There are reasons and myths which both favor and discourage expatriation. Below, I have listed a set of generalized statements about the viability of leaving America and these notions are examined.
The Highest Taxes In the World

expat 3The number one reason that Americans are fleeing the country is because of high taxes. The income tax rate rose this year to 39.6% from 35% for individuals earning more than $400,000 a year and married couples earning more than $450,000. Also, 77% of Americans will pay higher federal tax rates because the cuts in Social Security payroll taxes expired when Congress passed its tax package this past New Year’s Day. The Tax Policy Center estimates that those who earn more than $1 million would pay an average of $170,341 more in taxes. If you are middle class or poor, you may not have the means to leave and your taxes have not been as dramatically impacted as the wealthy. It is a fact that expatriation does favor the upper middle class because one has to have a significant income to benefit from a potential move. In other words, if you are the owner of an Obama phone, you are better off staying in the country because you have little to tax.
We Complain About Loss of Freedom, but This Is Not the Real Motivation To Leave

1obama-and-the-consitutionBecause of the manufactured terror threat, we have lost Habeus Corpus, free speech rights to the United Nations and every form of due process that we once cherished under our Constitution. And if you don’t like the unfolding criminal enterprise brand of government which has suddenly appeared before our collective eyes, please be aware that the bankers have rolled out a technocratic police state which would make Stalin envious. Both the emerging police state and the impending martial law advocates are bolstered by the fact that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased 1.6 billion rounds, oops, make that 2.2 billion rounds of high tech bullets engraved with the names of citizens who dare to oppose this tyranny! However, if freedom was the main motivator to get people to act either by escaping the government or by standing up to the criminal elements in the government, there would have been a civil war a long time ago. The loss of liberty is rarely a primary motivator for ordinary citizens to act.

We may complain about the loss of liberty, but it is not motivating many, if any, American citizens to leave the country for these reasons.
We Can’t Leave Our Great US Pensions Behind
Meet the new robber baron, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew

Meet the new robber baron, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew

It is a myth that America has a good set of retirement systems.You are not getting the best pension package compared to other Western nations as America ranks dead last in overall pension benefits. And this is in the backdrop of the nothing-to-lose, second term Obama Administration, who is preparing to seize your 401k pensions. Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew has already starting raided federal pension funds this past month so the government does not exceed the debt ceiling.

America, your money is not even safe in the bank as witnessed by the fact that the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals who just ruled that banks can steal the money of its depositors and it is legal!

There are no golden years in America unless you are in the infamous 1%.
Americans Stay for Higher Pay

Americans no longer live in the highest salary paying country in the world. In fact, the United States does not even crack the top ten list of the highest salary paying countries on the planet in which Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Japan, Norway, Austria, Belgium, Ireland, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom round out the top ten and pay their workers more than workers in the United States. In fact, the United States only ranks 20th in terms of overall gross pay! One would be very naive to call America the land of opportunity.
If We Leave Our Children’s Education Will Suffer

The Education Policy Institute assessed the affordability of higher education costs and found that the United States ranks 13th in higher education affordability. At a time when our schools are producing students which are common coreperforming last in math and science as compared our industrialized cohort nations, leaving the country, in many cases, would benefit a child’s educational attainment. And do not forget, this next year the Common Core Standards come online and they will dramatically increase the dumbing down of American students.

Most Americans mistakenly think they will help their children to rise above the rest by going to college. That type of thinking can be a financial death trap. To those who think your children can borrow their way to a degree, think again. Today’s U.S. college loan practices, which serves to underwrite much of the cost of a college education, are the most predatory in the world. As of last year, bankruptcy cannot cancel out a student loan debt and delinquent college students can now go to jail for nonpayment. In fact, several federal agencies have even “swat teamed” many delinquent student loan defaulters. Nowhere else in the world can we find evidence of these types of predatory practices being used against college students as we do here in the United States.

Even those who are degreed and/or skilled in fields such as engineering or information technology skills, are really wasting their time working in the United States. Eight of the world’s ten highest-paying countries for information technology (IT) managers are in Western Europe, according to a new survey by Mercer Human Resource Consulting. The survey found that Swiss managers are paid the most, followed by those in Germany and Denmark. In fact, IT management is another field where U.S. workers fail to crack the top ten in income, the United States ranks 14th in IT management compensation. Even debt ridden Spain, Italy and Greece pay their IT managers more than what Americans earn on average. If you child is striving to become a high tech employee, they would be better leaving the country.
We Cannot Leave This Good Health Care Behind

The United States spends more than the next 12 nations for health care. However, it seems as if we are spending more and enjoying it less as, despite our exorbitant spending on health care, the United States ranks 50th in the world in life expectancy. Cuba, Puerto Rico and Spain have higher life expectancies than the United States. Americans live in the only country in the world where its citizens cannot bargain shop for its medicines in foreign countries because the pharmaceuticals have convinced congress to establish a pharmaceutical monopoly over U.S. citizens. Death by doctor has increased to 225,000 per year. Healthcare would be an excellent reason to leave.
Other Factors to Consider

Although our education is substandard, our earning power is substandard, our tax rates are exorbitant and we increasingly live in a rapidly emerging police state, there are emotional factors to continue before one truly contemplates leaving the country.

happyIn a study done on the nature of tweeting and tweets expressing happiness, it was found that happy tweets decline significantly when people are more than 62 miles from their original home. Home is where the heart is and it will hard for many of us to leave our attachments behind as we emigrate to a foreign country.

According to a University of CaliforniaRiverside research study, about 40% of our capacity for happiness is actually within our power to change. This speaks strongly to the notion that life is what you make it.

Twenty percent of wealthy Americans happiness levels would not be impacted by the coming economic catastrophe according to happiness researchers. If a person is in the upper portion of the 80% which would be impacted in a dire economic downturn, they might benefit from expatriation. However, for the majority of the 80%, they do not have the means to expatriate and to maintain their present standard of living. For the non elite who would be expatriating, they do so because they want their children to have a better life than they would if they stayed in America.

Just how happy are Americans? In a research study comparing the answers to the following happiness question, countries were ranked. See where America falls on the list.

“Taking all things together, would you say you are: very happy, quite happy, not very happy, or not at all happy?”

Happiest Countries

1. Iceland 4. Netherlands 7. Norway 10. Venezuela

2. Denmark 5. Australia 8. Finland 11. Philippines

3. Sweden 6. Ireland 9. UK 12. Belgium

13. United States

Source: World Values Survey 2011

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dont worry be happy 2America is not the happiest nation on the earth, but we are happier than 180 other nations. Leaving our shores to an undetermined future will not guarantee happiness. And don’t forget the immigration rule of thumb. Generally, the first immigration generations suffers economically, socially and politically. The real gains are usually realized by the second generation in the immigrant class. So, leaving will not necessarily be a panacea.

The real game changer on whether an increasing number of Americans should leave comes down to the intentions of the powers that be and their willingness to engage in mass detentions and/or mass murder as the present tyranny is fully implemented. Certainly, with the NDAA, Executive Order 13603, the Military Commissions Act and add to the fact that we are now witnessing the persecution of whistle-blowers and we are now seeing the murder of investigative journalists like Andrew Breitbart and Michael Hastings, members of the alternative media should consider leaving before martial law is imposed.

As some of us try and determine the real intentions of the banksters who have hijacked our government with regard to how they will deal with the majority of watch nsa tyranny keep telling yourself you are freedog journalists, this is the deciding factor on whether some of us should leave the country and fade into oblivion. Will the coming martial law bring genocide to our shores for the masses who cannot or will not be “re-educated”? It is clear with DHS arming themselves to the teeth as we are seeing the roll out of all the precursors needed to impose a brutal martial law (e.g. presence of massive amount of foreign troops in our country). It would be remiss to not thoroughly assess this possibility.

Using the perspective of history combined with an analysis of contemporary events, a threat analysis to various segments of the population will be offered in a future article.

19 thoughts on “Should We Stay Or Should We Go?”

Chris June 24, 2013 at 5:56 am

I am one of the Americans who fled last year to South America to escape the totalitarian police state that has become the United States. I knew that Civil War was coming and there would not be enough sheeple to stand up to the Communists in power, especially given all their drones and high technology. The fact that Americans have not taken to the streets after Snowden’s revelations, the Benghazi revelations, the IRS revelations, the wire-tapping of the press, and now the assassination of Michael Hastings who was onto a big Obama corruption story lets me know that the USA is a lost cause. The fact that ANYONE thinks a true patriot like Snowden should go to jail (saying that the surveillance is lawful even though IT VIOLATES THE FOURTH AMENDMENT) is disgusting! I will NEVER step foot in that Nazi police state EVER again, and I know other people down here that feel the same way. There is nothing like the peace that comes to you when you no longer have to worry about jack-booted thugs from the government terrorizing you and you live in a nation that is actually FREE for the first time. Americans, if you have the means, leave while you still can. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
Garland Campbell June 24, 2013 at 6:02 am

Folks, The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the Republic of the united states of America says when our Government fails to serve us, we have THE DUTY TO CHANGE IT!!!!
Peter June 24, 2013 at 8:30 am

Chris, smart move. Germany was my last choice. New Zealand was my first but it is sitting on a major earthquake fault line (look what happen to Christchurch in 2011) and China will swallow it up when WW3 starts. I am not sure about South America. DO you mind me asking where in South America you went to? I got a real good paying job in Germany (I got in with my Greek passport, I am Greek American but born in Chicago), but if that fails Ireland is my next hop.
Peter June 24, 2013 at 9:12 am

Mr. Hodges,

I recommend you and your readers watch these you tube and then you will know you must leave USA soon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNuiLJHejKM
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ohbummer June 24, 2013 at 10:08 am

I’d love to leave. I would just have no idea how to go about doing it, not to mention you can’t just trade in your citizenship for one in another country. I’m also running on around 40k a year, so pretty much sub-middle class.
arizona June 24, 2013 at 10:47 am

ALL YOU DUMB asses,who have left OR are thinking about leaving,I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU,when america falls,and it will,they will be coming to the country your in and only GOD HIMSELF,knows what they will do to you and your family,BUT you will be wishing you stayed and fought it out with the police gangs who are taking over america,THE LORD says their ALL GOING TO HELL,good place for them,YOU WON’T be that lucky when they come for you,IN what ever country your in,cause WE win and they LOSE,thats the power of the LORD,when its over,we have our country back,And all the police gangs are dead,and peace returns to america,BUT not where your at,unless you stayed,cause theres no where safe to run to…..IF you don’t know the LORD,YOU better seek him now,your out of time…………………
arizona June 24, 2013 at 11:15 am

WHATS wrong,I’ll tell you whats wrong,THE kids are smarter then the parents,THIS is upside down,the whole country is upside down,YOU WANT TO KNOW whats wrong in america?? ASK YOUR KIDS,they know,listen to them,they know whats wrong,ask them who the worse gang in town is,THEY’LL POINT AT THE FIRST POLICE CAR going by and “GO’ THEM”,number one gang in america,they even call them THE POLICE GANG,how sad is that YOUR KIDS ARE SMARTER THEN YOU,this is upside down,the parents ARE supposed to be the leaders,BUT EVEN the kids have figured out your an IDIOT,this ain’t good,you parents had better get your head out of your ass,your falling from your childrens graces,YOU ALREADY fell from the lords graces,now the children have you pegged to……………………
s.t.mann June 24, 2013 at 12:47 pm

one might also consider the exhortations of the Word of God? (‘…Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4)
The Truth is what they need June 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm

What would really help is if people like you that have a platform to spread the truth would actually use it for that..

Start by telling the American people that they don’t have a government, what they have is a foreign banker owned corporation masquerading as their government..The President of US.Incorpated is Barrack Obama who actually works for the privately owned for profit entity that sits on the foreign owned District Of Columbia–

Then tell them the Federal Reserve is not a federal agency, it just pretends to be, it too is owned by these same London bankers, they create and engineer every economic boom and bust too enrich themselves and consolidate power by robbing the citizens of America–Imagine how much wealth you could accumulate if you controlled the boom to bust cycles and were always on the profitting side—You know the names of these modern day thieves, The Rothchilds, The Rockefellers, The Warburgs, The Schiffs, The Royal Crown..They own the U Inc. They enslaved all Americans against their will because they don’t know what these people have done to them.

After that, tell them the IRS is not a government entity at all, and that their taxes do not even go to the government, instead, they are deposited into the accounts of those same elitest banker families and it’s all tax free to them..Every day Americans get up and go to work for the richest familes in the world–They are the ones that take nearly half of every dollar you make, and what do they give you in return, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

The vast majority of Americans have no idea of this fraud perpetrated against them by the elite–

They have been enslaved to these elite banker families since the US bankruptcy in 1913..

These are things that could cause real change if Americans only knew because I don’t think they’d find it amusing that while they are struggling to eat, the Rothchild trillionaires are living in a castle off the money all the Americans worked for..

EDITOR’S NOTE: I have covered this repetitively. You saved me from repeating myself, thank you.
azgirl7 June 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm

Garland…we may have the duty, but not the means. Our elections are a joke. How do you think people like Graham, McCain, Lieberman, Feinstein, Grassley, Levin, McConnell, Durbin, Reid, Schumer, etc etc have been able to stay as long as they have? TPTB make sure ‘their’ guy gets in, and they have built themselves a nice cabal of traitors, each party undistinguishable from the other. America slept and we now look doomed to take a permanent dirt nap.
Lucille June 24, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Chris, where are you? Let us know. Don’t just tease us with freedom talk and about how free you are. Let us know where we can actually go to get away. I don’t think that you can get away, if anything, you will be followed and brought back to die with us in the chambers of death that they have prepared for us. Don’t leave us hanging Chris, after enjoying amerikkka for so long. You need to come back and help repay what you owe us all, the ability to get enough to escape from this hell hole. We are keeping tabs on you and we will squeal like pigs when they come to slaghter us, we will tell them where you are and they will find you. You also are part of the so called Nazi state, only you want to paint a picture of yourself as morally superior and not at fault for any of the murders and war crimes that we are responsible for. Chris you fail to realize who the New World Order is. You think it is Amerikkka and zion Israhell, you are wrong. They will fall and they will be nothing. The New World Order has been forming by all the other nations around the world who are not partakers of the Zionist movements. They are as strong if not stronger and some of the nations in South America are a part of that NEW WORLD. The NEW WORLD does not include amerikkka or Israhell, and you being Amerikkkan in a country like that, will make it easier for them to take you. You think that you will escape? What an idiot! They know where you are and they will pick you up easy, when the time is right. Come back Chris to face all the dirty things you did. We know what you are and what you have done, you are filth and perversion and you claim different. All of us have enriched ourselves on the blood of innocents. We have become fat from our crimes. You are a partaker of that too! Come back, we are stretching out our old dead bony fingers and we will drag you back to this God forsaken land that is flooded in blood and sin. You are a son of amerikkka, you will die for us eventually. Somewhere, somehow. There’s nowhere you can go, that they can’t find you. You coward. Be proud to be Amerikkkan!
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